Being a life long resident of Montana, this is just awful. All these new bills that are trying to be rammed down the throats as of recent are a joke and largely supported by MOGA (Montana Outfitter and Guide Association). SB-143,(which was talked about earlier here on GoHunt) Crossbows during archery season, and now this, all outfitter backed. Like James R. stated below, this is a bill for outfitters to receive premium tags without having to have clients wait the sometimes 20 years to draw them. How can you have a MT resident apply for 15 years of bonus points in trying to draw this premier rifle tag, to then allow every Tom, Dick and Harry the following year hunt the unit on a general tag?? It is all money driven. This new wave in Montana that has the backing from MOGA and their privatizing hunting to make them rich is sickening. As a testament to those on here stating that if they were a Montana resident this is the last thing they would want, you are exactly the voice of 90% of Montanans. Every sportman who is not an outfitter/guide I talk to is 100% against this new wave of bills. MOGA is obviously in our new politicians pockets and pushing these new bills hard. We are all currently emailing and calling our representatives and making our voice heard and I suggest all you to do the same. Randy Newberg's HuntTalk forum has great contact information for achieving this.
I have yet to see any mention, in 40 something comments, about predator control. Yes you could argue that we as hunters are considered predators but I’m talking about the four legged variety. Tell me this, if you are a hunter, there are 30 rigs parked at the trailhead, you go hunting anyway and see plenty of game, have a chance to harvest and thus enjoy your trip, how likely are you to complain about those 30 other vehicles? Now flip that around with the outcome being little to no game and thus a bad experience? Wolves have had such a drastic effect on game populations in ID that it is almost unimaginable if you haven’t seen it with your own eyes. When are we as hunters going to demand that we get in return what we pay for? I sure as hell know that if I get half a pizza delivered to my house from Pizza Hut I’m demanding a refund. This epidemic is no different. We are paying for a product and getting $hit in return. Watching our F&G turn a blind eye to the wolf crisis effecting nearly half the state is a joke and honestly malicious. You want a better experience no matter what the cost? We as both resident and NR need to be bringing this to the doorstep of the State. Are tag increases needed and better regulations put on unsold NR tags, sure do, but this overcrowding is a mask the State is hiding behind to divert the real problem and that’s its poor management of game populations.
I have yet to see any mention, in 40 something comments, about predator control. Yes you could argue that we as hunters are considered predators but I’m talking about the four legged variety. Tell me this, if you are a hunter, there are 30 rigs parked at the trailhead, you go hunting anyway and see plenty of game, have a chance to harvest and thus enjoy your trip, how likely are you to complain about those 30 other vehicles? Now flip that around with the outcome being little to no game and thus a bad experience? Wolves have had such a drastic effect on game populations in ID that it is almost unimaginable if you haven’t seen it with your own eyes. When are we as hunters going to demand that we get in return what we pay for? I sure as hell know that if I get half a pizza delivered to my house from Pizza Hut I’m demanding a refund. This epidemic is no different. We are paying for a product and getting $hit in return. Watching our F&G turn a blind eye to the wolf crisis effecting nearly half the state is a joke and honestly malicious. You want a better experience no matter what the cost? We as both resident and NR need to be bringing this to the doorstep of the State. Are tag increases needed and better regulations put on unsold NR tags, sure do, but this overcrowding is a mask the State is hiding behind to divert the real problem and that’s its poor management of game populations.
Enjoyed the article and agree with the new era thinking that bigger is better. I began bow hunting at the age of 10 with a 35# draw weight and worked my way up. Todays society wants to skip the work and reap the benefits. It just doesn't work that way. It took me thousands of arrows and years to be able to draw 70#'s effortlessly. Do I need to shot 70#'s to kill an elk? No! I personally know a lady who kills bulls on average every other year while only shooting 55#'s. Is she going to blow through bone or have exceptionally great penetration? No! And she knows that, so she picks and chooses good angles, closer shots and has great shot placement (the most important thing). If you have good shot placement and sharp broadheads you don't need 80#'s.
5 years ago
ALERT: Montana bill to remove special permit limits if hunt district exceeds sustainable populationBeing a life long resident of Montana, this is just awful. All these new bills that are trying to be rammed down the throats as of recent are a joke and largely supported by MOGA (Montana Outfitter and Guide Association). SB-143,(which was talked about earlier here on GoHunt) Crossbows during archery season, and now this, all outfitter backed.
Like James R. stated below, this is a bill for outfitters to receive premium tags without having to have clients wait the sometimes 20 years to draw them. How can you have a MT resident apply for 15 years of bonus points in trying to draw this premier rifle tag, to then allow every Tom, Dick and Harry the following year hunt the unit on a general tag?? It is all money driven.
This new wave in Montana that has the backing from MOGA and their privatizing hunting to make them rich is sickening. As a testament to those on here stating that if they were a Montana resident this is the last thing they would want, you are exactly the voice of 90% of Montanans. Every sportman who is not an outfitter/guide I talk to is 100% against this new wave of bills. MOGA is obviously in our new politicians pockets and pushing these new bills hard. We are all currently emailing and calling our representatives and making our voice heard and I suggest all you to do the same. Randy Newberg's HuntTalk forum has great contact information for achieving this.
6 years ago
Idaho considers big changes to nonresident huntingI have yet to see any mention, in 40 something comments, about predator control. Yes you could argue that we as hunters are considered predators but I’m talking about the four legged variety. Tell me this, if you are a hunter, there are 30 rigs parked at the trailhead, you go hunting anyway and see plenty of game, have a chance to harvest and thus enjoy your trip, how likely are you to complain about those 30 other vehicles? Now flip that around with the outcome being little to no game and thus a bad experience? Wolves have had such a drastic effect on game populations in ID that it is almost unimaginable if you haven’t seen it with your own eyes. When are we as hunters going to demand that we get in return what we pay for? I sure as hell know that if I get half a pizza delivered to my house from Pizza Hut I’m demanding a refund. This epidemic is no different. We are paying for a product and getting $hit in return. Watching our F&G turn a blind eye to the wolf crisis effecting nearly half the state is a joke and honestly malicious. You want a better experience no matter what the cost? We as both resident and NR need to be bringing this to the doorstep of the State. Are tag increases needed and better regulations put on unsold NR tags, sure do, but this overcrowding is a mask the State is hiding behind to divert the real problem and that’s its poor management of game populations.
6 years ago
Idaho considers big changes to nonresident huntingI have yet to see any mention, in 40 something comments, about predator control. Yes you could argue that we as hunters are considered predators but I’m talking about the four legged variety. Tell me this, if you are a hunter, there are 30 rigs parked at the trailhead, you go hunting anyway and see plenty of game, have a chance to harvest and thus enjoy your trip, how likely are you to complain about those 30 other vehicles? Now flip that around with the outcome being little to no game and thus a bad experience? Wolves have had such a drastic effect on game populations in ID that it is almost unimaginable if you haven’t seen it with your own eyes. When are we as hunters going to demand that we get in return what we pay for? I sure as hell know that if I get half a pizza delivered to my house from Pizza Hut I’m demanding a refund. This epidemic is no different. We are paying for a product and getting $hit in return. Watching our F&G turn a blind eye to the wolf crisis effecting nearly half the state is a joke and honestly malicious. You want a better experience no matter what the cost? We as both resident and NR need to be bringing this to the doorstep of the State. Are tag increases needed and better regulations put on unsold NR tags, sure do, but this overcrowding is a mask the State is hiding behind to divert the real problem and that’s its poor management of game populations.
9 years ago
Unhinging the massive bowhunting draw weight trendEnjoyed the article and agree with the new era thinking that bigger is better. I began bow hunting at the age of 10 with a 35# draw weight and worked my way up. Todays society wants to skip the work and reap the benefits. It just doesn't work that way. It took me thousands of arrows and years to be able to draw 70#'s effortlessly. Do I need to shot 70#'s to kill an elk? No! I personally know a lady who kills bulls on average every other year while only shooting 55#'s. Is she going to blow through bone or have exceptionally great penetration? No! And she knows that, so she picks and chooses good angles, closer shots and has great shot placement (the most important thing). If you have good shot placement and sharp broadheads you don't need 80#'s.