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Draw Odds Now Updated For 2020! - posted 4 hours ago

@ Ryan, Canadian draws only effect Canadian residents of that province. Non-resident foreign nationals can not compete for tags via Canadian draws. Most Canadian provinces require a guide to hunt big game similar to Alaska's laws on guides required for sheep, goats and brown bears. Some of the eastern Canadian provinces have programs to allow unguided hunters. I know Quebec had a program like that for moose, caribou and bears previously.

Alert: New 2020 Wyoming nonresident elk draw result date change - posted 1 day ago

I am of the theory that whoever thought this was a good idea for Wyoming had zero idea of what it would do for the non-residents that hunt there.

You shouldn't lose your points if you withdraw.

It does say you can modify it until the final date. I am not sure of the mechanics of it on switching from regular to special and vice versa. Would be cool if they published the numbers, and you saw that could possibly gain a better shot on a better tag by switching if they allowed you to do that. I doubt that is the case though.

Point Creep: What is it? Can you overcome it? and much more - posted 5 days ago

State game departments are not going to ban non-residents, the financials just aren't in those cards. New Mexico made it hell on NR by limiting the number of tags in the non-resident pool. I think that was a great idea, but not sure how that would play out in a state like Wyoming or Colorado where the game department is larger.

Point Creep: What is it? Can you overcome it? and much more - posted 5 days ago

@ Dillon,

Yes to a point. The problem is that the majority of the hunters that have points in the sheep, goat, moose, bison and limited entry deer and elk units throughout the West are either boomers or the Pepsi Generation (like me). Most guys are sitting on a ton of points, and they will never get into those units. Especially in Colorado and Wyoming that give the majority of the tags to those in that category.

The units don't have the inventory to push 100% of the most senior points holders to a tag every year. So every year there is a backlog of those that don't move up, and those that are at max points and have a low percentage of getting a tag.

I grew up in Wyoming, and I knew several people before the points scheme that had multiple moose tags. In my family both my aunt and my uncle had several moose tags before the scheme started. Neither one hunts anymore, but I knew a lot of guys that had drawn more than 3 sheep tags in the grand old days. I knew a lot of people that complained about them and the majority of them never applied.

My father is 80. He has 17 points for sheep. He is on oxygen full time, and can't walk 40 yards. He isn't going sheep hunting any time soon. I know a lot of boomers sitting on as many points, if not more. This screws up the Wyoming numbers, and there are tons of people holding onto points.

Point Creep: What is it? Can you overcome it? and much more - posted 6 days ago

Points programs need to go away. I personally think that non-residents should have to apply for every unit they hunt in. In states like Idaho, Wyoming and Montana that have OTC tags for residents and general areas. Even if they did it regionally like Wyoming does with Zones for deer.

The biggest problem with points programs, is that unless you got in on the ground floor you may never hunt or won't hunt very much. We were sold a pill that creates a situation of a guaranteed piece of crap in a box. Sure there is a guarantee on there, but no one knows when that guarantee will ever happen.

I have 7 or 8 points for sheep in Wyoming. I doubt I will ever draw a tag, so this is the first year I have stopped buying points. I had 5 or 6 points before Wyoming got greedy and wanted $100 a point, now it is $150.

I have been thinking the ideal situation would be to turn all the points programs into straight points, and make each point worth 1 point. Do not square points, or cube them. Give half the tags to a public drawing, then half the tags to points holders. That way anyone can compete for tags, but it doesn't alienate those that have purchased points.

What incentive do most of us have to upkeep points programs, when we know that we will never draw a tag?

Another option would be to do follow the Utah and Idaho approach and limit non-residents to one tag application.