Hunters discussing Unit 34 in Oregon's Upper Deschutes express skepticism about the state's estimated buck-to-doe ratios and total deer population, suggesting potential inaccuracies in management data, especially considering past harvest rates. There is concern about high hunter pressure, especially with over-the-counter bull tags, exacerbated by overlapping environmental and human factors such as development encroaching on migration routes and winter ranges, and ineffective population counting methods. The sentiment reflects frustration with current wildlife management strategies and highlights the impact of environmental changes and human activity on local mule deer populations. Hunters suggest improved counting methods, such as infrared flyovers, to gain more accurate insights and support sustainable management plans.