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Alert: New 2020 Wyoming nonresident elk draw result date change

New 2020 Wyoming nonresident elk draw result date change

For the 2020 application season, Wyoming Game and Fish Department has made some big changes in how they are conducting their nonresident elk draw.

New draw result date for nonresident elk

The application period for nonresident elk is still January 2 at 8 a.m. through January 31. But nonresidents now have until May 8 to modify or withdraw their applications. An even more significant change is nonresident elk draw results will now be published the third week of May. According to WYGF, this new change is meant to give applicants more information before the draw. “In the past, nonresident elk hunters finalized their applications long before the Game and Fish Commission approved the seasons in April,” said Jennifer Doering, Game and Fish license section manager.

With the change, nonresidents will be able to withdraw or modify their application once the 2020 season information is finalized in April by the Game and Fish Commission. “Now licenses will be issued based on final and approved season information,” Doering said.

How could this impact you?

This new draw result date could greatly impact how many people apply for nonresident elk in Wyoming or even if they keep their application in. Now you'll not know if you draw Wyoming elk for an additional three months! In 2019, the nonresident elk draw results were released on February 21 at 10:00 am MST. If you don't draw, that application money refund could have been used for other states like in years past, so now you are having to float that money for a lot longer. Just think about how this will impact families who all apply for Wyoming elk? That's a lot of money on a credit card, for a long time!

Also, by the time you find out the Wyoming elk draw results, you will potentially have already found out if you drew tags in Alaska, Arizona (elk, antelope), Wyoming (moose, sheep, goat, bison), Utah (all species), Nevada guide draw, Montana (deer, elk), New Mexico guide draw, all species in New Mexico, Colorado (bighorn sheep, mountain goat), and potentially Idaho (moose, sheep, goat). So some people might decide to modify their application and pull their name out of the hat if they have drawn tags in other states that are more of a priority to them. Wyoming went to one of the first hunts you had results for, to now, one of the last. Wyoming will publish an update on the 2020 deadlines at the end of December.

Another new change for 2020, is according to WYGF, they will not publish tentative season information in the application packet for elk, deer and antelope. Instead, hunters can reference the 2019 regulations and archery season dates on their Hunter Planner. Tentative season information for 2020 is available for moose, bighorn sheep, and mountain goat. The final hunting season information will be published on May 1, which will allow time for hunters to make modifications or withdraw applications.


In summary

  • Draw period for nonresident elk: January 2 to January 31
  • Modify or withdraw date: May 8
  • 2020 nonresident elk draw results: Third week of May

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Mark A. - posted 1 month ago on 02-16-2020 04:09:18 pm
Lake Villa IL
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This just opened the door for me the apply in other states without worrying about drawing multiple tags. I feel for the fellow hunters who can't afford this though. I doubt it will change draw odds much seeing the large raise in tag prices a few years back didn't. A few of my group have had it with changes in general out west. The old people are getting grumpy.

Mark A. - posted 1 month ago on 02-16-2020 04:05:37 pm
Lake Villa IL
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This just opened the door for me the apply in other states without worrying about drawing multiple tags. I feel for the fellow hunters who can't afford this though. I doubt it will change draw odds much seeing the large raise in tag prices a few years back didn't. A few of my group have had it with changes in general out west. The old people are getting grumpy.

Christopher S. - posted 1 month ago on 02-11-2020 10:58:42 am
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I'm glad I burned my Wyoming elk points last year before the Guide and Outfitters association screwed NR again. Hey, at least Wyoming is consistent with which group they pander to.

Seth D. - posted 2 months ago on 01-24-2020 07:57:15 pm
Public Lands
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I am of the theory that whoever thought this was a good idea for Wyoming had zero idea of what it would do for the non-residents that hunt there.

You shouldn't lose your points if you withdraw.

It does say you can modify it until the final date. I am not sure of the mechanics of it on switching from regular to special and vice versa. Would be cool if they published the numbers, and you saw that could possibly gain a better shot on a better tag by switching if they allowed you to do that. I doubt that is the case though.

Quinn L. - posted 2 months ago on 01-24-2020 07:17:18 pm
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Anyone know how it works if you have to withdraw your applications....Do you lose your points when and if you withdraw?

Paul T. - posted 2 months ago on 01-13-2020 08:01:29 am

John K. You can thank the outfitters for the it

John K. - posted 2 months ago on 01-13-2020 07:57:44 am
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This is depressing. Basically relegating me to nothing but a preference point purchaser yet again.

JOHN E. - posted 2 months ago on 01-07-2020 05:39:11 pm
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Do you know if we can modify our application from NR regular draw to the NR special draw? This would increase your chances for most Wyoming hunts if you didn't get drawn in other states but decrease the time you have to float the fees.

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Brady M. - posted 2 months ago on 12-31-2019 04:00:18 pm
Las Vegas, NV
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Hey Jonathan. They did make some slight changes on the point only app period. Mainly just extending the deadline. Now the point only period is from July 1 to November 2.

You can check out some of that information on this beast of an article here: https://www.gohunt.com/read/INSIDER/2020-western-big-game-hunting-application-deadlines

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Jonathan C. - posted 3 months ago on 12-31-2019 06:09:58 am
Frankford, Ontario

Have they made any changes as to when you can purchase preference points?

Kevin H. - posted 3 months ago on 12-24-2019 11:04:38 am
Springfield, OR
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All this does is keep the working man like myself from being able to apply for an out-of-state area due to holding onto my money for several more months. Great way to pad the budget. Definitely a deal-breaker for me this year. I got 6 points, and will need to wait another year to pad my budget to be able to apply for tag. Wonder how much this in a drop application numbers? Wyoming just step on their own poop pile here!

Trevor D. - posted 3 months ago on 12-24-2019 07:51:29 am
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If the WYGF was truly concerned about giving people more information before the draw, they should have moved the draw period to April 9-May 8. Seems more like an excuse for the state of Wyoming to sit on $30 million of application money for 4 months.

Eric H. - posted 3 months ago on 12-24-2019 06:33:14 am
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Last year I drew a WY elk tag with 8 points. Since the draw results came out in February before deer applications were due, I was able to use only 1 point to pick up a deer tag in the same area. I never would have applied for that deer tag without already receiving the elk tag. That flexibility is gone now.

Glen G. - posted 3 months ago on 12-24-2019 06:10:04 am
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Thanks for putting this together Brady. Was there a reason given from Wyoming for making this change?? I guess for some this will be a deal breaker for some.

Andrew L. - posted 3 months ago on 12-24-2019 05:56:04 am
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It gets hard to justify applying in some states that keep making it more confusing and so expensive to hunt in those states,I love hunting Wyoming but you can't keep screwing over the people that pay your bills over and over, and you wonder why the youth aren't interested in hunting?Come on now

Gary H. - posted 3 months ago on 12-18-2019 05:58:35 am
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Brady

Thanks for putting that together. I think a lot of us are confused on in what order we should be applying. Everybody wants to hunt but in most cases people dont want to accidentally draw several tags. Not everybody can make the time to hunt that many tags.

I break down of an order in which we should be applying would be great. Looking forward to your article.

Example: I can only go on one hunt next year and I want a chance to to draw in archery in Colorado and Deer in Wyoming and Montana for general. BUT I am not 100% sure on when I will need to apply and if these drawings overlap with deadlines and results. What do I do?

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Brady M. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 05:57:17 pm
Las Vegas, NV
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@Matt - If other states stay roughly the same on draw result dates, it will be Kansas, Nevada (all species), Montana (moose, sheep, goat, bison), Oregon (all species), Washington (all species), then Wyoming (deer, antelope), Montana antelope, California (all species), Idaho (deer, elk, antelope), and then Arizona (deer, sheep, bison). Several states also have their antlerless results out after too.

All of the above mentioned will release draw results after Wyoming closes that modify window. I'll be releasing the tentative 2020 app deadline and results schedule article here this week.

Always glad to help!

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Matt F. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 05:50:40 pm
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So, if you still have a chance to modify or pull your WY application if you draw a tag in another state, which states release draw results AFTER Wyoming closes that modify-or-pull window? P.S. Thanks in advance for your time!

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Brady M. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 05:21:53 pm
Las Vegas, NV
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@Seth - That is true... but you still have a chance to modify and pull your WY application out if you do draw a tag in another state. You will keep your points that way, but won't be refunded the full app cost. That new modify/withdraw date is May 8. So you can pull your app out before they draw later in May. You will be out some fees... but at least your name was in the running while you wait to see draw results in other states.

Seth D. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 05:07:49 pm
Public Lands
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James you can not turn your tag back in Wyoming for a refund or to recoup points. Wyoming doesn't do that.

James w. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 05:01:50 pm
Chapel Hill, TN
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Well, this is just a way for the state to use our money for 90 days. I planned to put in for first time this year for WY. I am having to reconsider that. Not as much for the money although there is a principal involved. I live in Tennessee and only can get one or maybe two hunts out west. I suppose that I can withdraw if I get drawn for another state, but who wants to do that! Well have to rework my whole draw plan. Though this may improve our odds!

Seth D. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 04:33:16 pm
Public Lands
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I don't see the impact. Their preference points program is a joke, but I don't live there, or pay taxes and I don't vote there I am just a consumer and they produce a product I love.

So I am going to keep on consuming.

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Chip C. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 12:48:46 pm
Cumming, GA
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You know I missed the public comment period for something that only affects us non-residents. Arrogance at the highest level to not even ask those impacted. I would love to sue these Wyoming clowns.

john k. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 12:17:31 pm
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The application date should be pushed back to coincide. Why doesn't anyone want to discuss implementing a faster system. It can't take that long to process the lottery

matthew a. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 11:40:33 am
Sheridan, WY
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I love it, here is a State that values the resource more than the revenue. It changes the calculus for draw strategy, but we can all agree that it empowers the management program. I also see the potentially for increasing the draw odds in the NR GEN Tag pool moving forward due to financial burden and/or commitment.

Lets be thankful WY has room for us NR guys/gals to participate.

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Brady M. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 09:58:07 am
Las Vegas, NV
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@Scotty - You unfortunately, cannot turn a tag back in once drawn for the state of Wyoming. If you want to check out a "what if you draw too many tags in one year" article I wrote a few years ago, you can read that here: https://www.gohunt.com/read/INSIDER/what-to-do-if-you-draw-too-many-hunting-tags-in-one-year

Most of that information is still correct.

@Sean - It will most likely be the same thing this year. And the points only period will be the same. One thing to keep in mind... how many people forgot that they had to later go in and purchase a point last year after they didn't draw a tag? That rule upset a lot of people who were used to getting a point when they got their refund back. And if a ton of people forgot to pick up their point, that might impact draw odds this year.

michael h. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 09:45:11 am
Tijeras, NM
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Well f*ck a duck, this blows

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Scotty M. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 08:32:15 am
Rowlett, TX
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It would figure that the year I plan to cash in 3 pts for a general elk tag, WY would change the laws. While I should be able to get a general tag with 3 pts, I can no longer rely on NM as a back up draw option. Doing so would mean floating a couple thousand dollars, as well as running the risk of drawing both tags and having to turn one in (I only have 3 weeks of vacation each year). Question. If you are drawn and have to turn the tag back in, do you get your points back or lose them?

Seth D. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 08:26:13 am
Public Lands
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I am anxious to see how much the massive increase in tag cost in Wyoming changed the application percentages.

Seth D. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 08:26:01 am
Public Lands
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I am anxious to see how much the massive increase in tag cost in Wyoming changed the application percentages.

Sean M. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 07:56:00 am
IDAHO
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Any changes to the point application period? If I recall - WY last year changed to NOT awarding a point on a unsuccessful app and had to go in after July to purchase a point. Same situation this year?

Gary H. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 07:07:16 am
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For the life of me I cannot figure out what takes so long to process these applications in a timely fashion. With the computer and computer sever power in today's day and age this should be a 24 hour turn around time to your notice of whether or not you drew or now.

I might be able to understand the delay for the credit card processing but I cannot understand the delay of notice of if you drew or not. That should be a very simple process for any state.

Unreal.

Paul T. - posted 3 months ago on 12-17-2019 05:38:56 am

Scott D
Drawing odds for the 2020 season will be posted after the 2020 drawing. You should be looking at the 2019 drawing odds to get kind of an idea what you’re up against for the 2020 season.

mike w. - posted 3 months ago on 12-16-2019 08:44:23 pm
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Whose bright idea was that?

David P. - posted 3 months ago on 12-16-2019 08:29:38 pm
New Richmond, WI
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That’s crap at least push the deadline back. Seems to me the state is banking a pile of money on interest with all the non resident money.

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Brady M. - posted 3 months ago on 12-16-2019 07:03:22 pm
Las Vegas, NV
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Hey Scott. The new draw odds will be updated for every state on INSIDER in the next couple weeks. It’s hard to believe that application season is almost here again. Plus, the Wyoming elk application strategy article will be live late December or the first few days of January.

Scott D. - posted 3 months ago on 12-16-2019 06:55:49 pm
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Any idea Brady on when you guys will be updating draw odds for 2020 in Wyoming?

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Brady M. - posted 3 months ago on 12-16-2019 05:39:52 pm
Las Vegas, NV
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@Mark - It's been a while since I modified my Wyoming application. But back in the day, I did pull my app out from a party app when my friend couldn't go anymore and then had to apply by myself, and I believe I was eventually refunded everything but the application fee and CC processing percent. That's what I remember right now off the top of my head.

Justin M. - posted 3 months ago on 12-16-2019 05:33:37 pm
Chester Springs ,PA
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Stupid!!!!

Mark A. - posted 3 months ago on 12-16-2019 05:21:20 pm
Lake Villa IL
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Any info on charges for modifying or withdrawing. I'm guessing there will be fees.